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and karl rove can't organize it. neither can any of the other people who played with that power but who now can't control it. >> so those who rode the tiger are now inside the tiger. >> exactly. >> don't forget, the chamber of commerce, at very times, made common cause with the antigovernment, anti-tax, anti-everything. they were willing to get in bed with him at certain points. and now they're paying for it. and karl is trying to unwind what he's wound. >> he's like a track tout. i used to go and after the races were over, they would show you who they'd recommend you'd bet on. it was always the winners that pass out the free picks. i would have bet on this guy. that's rove out there saying i would have had all of these winners picked, we would have won all of these general elections and now everybody realizes we're going to go over it in a minute. but your thoughts? >> now, i totally agree with howard. your analogy there. the problem for karl is we have all the betting slips. his two organizations, american cross ro
and karl rove can't organize it. neither can any of the other people who played with that power but who now can't control it. >> so those who rode the tiger are now inside the tiger. >> exactly. >> don't forget, the chamber of commerce, at very times, made common cause with the antigovernment, anti-tax, anti-everything. they were willing to get in bed with him at certain points. and now they're paying for it. and karl is trying to unwind what he's wound. >> he's like a...
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karl rove thinks that, marc marco rubio thinks that. it's not guilty aboutish issues, like you just said. when you look at, hogan, the war on women and the legislation they passed in certain states against women's right to choose, it wasn't that women were objecting to the tone, they were objecting to the policy. when you look at they're closing planned parenthood, let's go to a judge. let's teal with the fact that you have a man named paul brown who announced today his bid for the georgia senate. this is a guy who calls evolution and the big bang theory live straight from the pit of health. he sug jeszed the president abide by the soviet constitution and he called snookie more substantive than the president of the united states. he might say it with a better tone, but how do you take this out there and act like this is something that the american public can even entertain having to represent them in a senate or any other office. >> well, it's not. but those aren't the tenants of the republican party. but this is an out liar trying to t
karl rove thinks that, marc marco rubio thinks that. it's not guilty aboutish issues, like you just said. when you look at, hogan, the war on women and the legislation they passed in certain states against women's right to choose, it wasn't that women were objecting to the tone, they were objecting to the policy. when you look at they're closing planned parenthood, let's go to a judge. let's teal with the fact that you have a man named paul brown who announced today his bid for the georgia...
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has karl rove declared war on the tea party? if he has, it's a real bad idea. >>> also tonight, the stock market takes its biggest correction of the year across the board. some are blaming spain. nonsense. i say buy the correction back. profits are the mother's milk of stocks and theorizing. >>> you saw it last night. get this. beyonce met solyndra in new orleans. the greenest super bowl in history delivered a 35-minute power outage. who will take the rap? "the kudlow report" begins right now. >>> first up tonight republicans lost big last november. now they're trying to come up with a new unified branding message. here's karl rove declaring war against the tea party. heck, why not a firing squad? it might be easier. it might be cheaper. i don't get this at all. here now with the story, cnbc contributor robert costa from the national review. robert, what is this? what's going on here? >> it's a big story, larry. karl rove one of the top republican strategists in the country is upset with republican primary voters. he looks at 20
has karl rove declared war on the tea party? if he has, it's a real bad idea. >>> also tonight, the stock market takes its biggest correction of the year across the board. some are blaming spain. nonsense. i say buy the correction back. profits are the mother's milk of stocks and theorizing. >>> you saw it last night. get this. beyonce met solyndra in new orleans. the greenest super bowl in history delivered a 35-minute power outage. who will take the rap? "the kudlow...
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. >>> red rover, karl rove's new push to score some winners is getting pushback from powerful conservative groups. this morning, a debate between one of rove's point men and one of his top critics. >>> and who do you know? and do you know who this guy is? you should. he just might be the most powerful person in israeli politics not named netanyahu right now. find out what an unexpected power surge from the center could mean for u.s. hopes for mideast peace. >>> good morning from washington. it's tuesday, february 5th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's get to my first reads. president obama's state of the union address is just a week from today and the president is flooding the zone. worried the federal budget could dominate and limit his agenda this year. he's pushing other issues. he's talking guns one day, immigration the next. making sure he's not drawn into a standoff with republicans over the economy which would quickly come to define his second term. today, he makes the case on immigration to business leaders, including ceos like steve case and monica lozano fr
. >>> red rover, karl rove's new push to score some winners is getting pushback from powerful conservative groups. this morning, a debate between one of rove's point men and one of his top critics. >>> and who do you know? and do you know who this guy is? you should. he just might be the most powerful person in israeli politics not named netanyahu right now. find out what an unexpected power surge from the center could mean for u.s. hopes for mideast peace. >>> good...
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the question is can they resolve it, whether or not it is karl rove or any other group? can they resolve it in the next two years, if they lose in the next mid-terms they will be in a whole world of pain going into the next presidential election. it will be fascinating to watch. >> joy reid, richard wolff, thank you for joining us tonight. >>> and the flop, there was one in the speech tonight. and who has better comedy writers? david letterman? the only republican who is not afraid of dave. and in the rewrite, fox news is re-writing the pundits and getting rid of the people who have never been right about anything ever. we'll give you the greatest hits of "fox news" greatest losers coming up in a bit. ♪ get ready for a lot more of that new-plane smell. we're building the youngest, most modern fleet among the largest us airlines to ensure that you are more comfortable and connected than ever. we are becoming a new american. all stations come over to mithis is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two,
the question is can they resolve it, whether or not it is karl rove or any other group? can they resolve it in the next two years, if they lose in the next mid-terms they will be in a whole world of pain going into the next presidential election. it will be fascinating to watch. >> joy reid, richard wolff, thank you for joining us tonight. >>> and the flop, there was one in the speech tonight. and who has better comedy writers? david letterman? the only republican who is not...
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how dare karl rove and his money guys try to do any such thing. and so yes, paul broun and steve king may be the prototypical examples of the kind of off the cooke end candidates that karl rove and the big money guys do not want in republican politics, because those are the kind of guys that lose senate seats that are otherwise winnable. but karl rove and his money guys kind of stand alone in that assessment. the rest of the party wants that. they want those guys. and they want it not naively. they know what they are getting. steve king and paul broun have been around for a long time. when the party stands up and says these are the guys they want, they know who they're talking about. they know who these guys are. and it is what they choose. so if you were a republican party stalwart, if you were part of the republican party and you loved the republican party and you wanted what was best for the republican party, what would you do at a time like this? what would you say? how would you try to fix this problem? well, today in washington house majorit
how dare karl rove and his money guys try to do any such thing. and so yes, paul broun and steve king may be the prototypical examples of the kind of off the cooke end candidates that karl rove and the big money guys do not want in republican politics, because those are the kind of guys that lose senate seats that are otherwise winnable. but karl rove and his money guys kind of stand alone in that assessment. the rest of the party wants that. they want those guys. and they want it not naively....
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the question is can they resolve it, whether or not it is karl rove or any other group? can they resolve it in the next two years, if they lose in the next mid-terms they will be in a whole world of pain going into the next presidential election. it will be fascinating to watch. >> joy reid, richard wolff, thank you for joining us tonight. >>> and the flop, there was one in the speech tonight. and who has better comedy writers? david letterman? the only republican who is not afraid of dave. and in the rewrite, fox news is re-writing the pundits and getting rid of the people who have never been right about anything ever. we'll give you the greatest hits of "fox news" greatest losers coming up in a bit. how do you keep an older car running like new? you ask a ford customer. when they tell you that you need your oil changed you got to bring it in. if your tires need to be rotated, you have to get that done as well. jackie, tell me why somebody should bring they're car here to the ford dealership for service instead of any one of those other places out there. they are going
the question is can they resolve it, whether or not it is karl rove or any other group? can they resolve it in the next two years, if they lose in the next mid-terms they will be in a whole world of pain going into the next presidential election. it will be fascinating to watch. >> joy reid, richard wolff, thank you for joining us tonight. >>> and the flop, there was one in the speech tonight. and who has better comedy writers? david letterman? the only republican who is not...
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here's the thing can karl rove. you cannot spend four years trying to convince the country that the president is a lying socialist intent on destroying america and killing babies and confiscating guns and then turn around and say oh, we don't like the candidates who support those views that we have ourselves been pushing for the past four years. so this is the chickens coming home to roost now. they have to have over a long period of time an evolution where they are convincing their base that they need to have more moderate candidates, more moderate positions. that's going to take time. >> do you agree with krystal? >> i agree with krystal 100%. they have to have more moderate rhetoric, but they also have to have policy positions that match the rhetoric. >> 100%. >> and when it comes to health care tacks, economy, immigration, gay and z lesbian rights, you name it. the republican party just isn't there. >> and so jimmy do you regard this extreme makeover as being purely cosmetic in effect? >> listen, everybody could
here's the thing can karl rove. you cannot spend four years trying to convince the country that the president is a lying socialist intent on destroying america and killing babies and confiscating guns and then turn around and say oh, we don't like the candidates who support those views that we have ourselves been pushing for the past four years. so this is the chickens coming home to roost now. they have to have over a long period of time an evolution where they are convincing their base that...
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just want to -- a quick word i mention to susan page about karl rove forming this new pac. it's called the conservative victory fund. and last year, karl rove had such a disastrous record that he spent $400 million lost the presidency they lost ten out of 12 senate races. they lost four out of nine house races. all of that money spent against democrats so now he's going to form yet another pac and spend this money in the republican primaries against republicans that he doesn't like, particularly tea party members he doesn't like. i love satisfying republicans eat each other alive. but i think this does pose a couple of important questions. number one after his record of blowing $400 million last year, why would anybody trust karl rove with a dime? and two, i want to know -- i want to know, damn it, how much money is karl rove making off these super pacs. you know he's not working for nothing. i'll get he's getting 10%. i'll bet he got $40 million out of that super pac last year. now he wants even more. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." armed with the facts, and t
just want to -- a quick word i mention to susan page about karl rove forming this new pac. it's called the conservative victory fund. and last year, karl rove had such a disastrous record that he spent $400 million lost the presidency they lost ten out of 12 senate races. they lost four out of nine house races. all of that money spent against democrats so now he's going to form yet another pac and spend this money in the republican primaries against republicans that he doesn't like,...
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karl rove will weigh in on the deal and the "60 minutes" interview tonight. adam carolla on shaming overweight people and carolla's experience on "dancing with the stars." there he is whoa. i hope you stay tuned for those reports. >> bill: liberal man, forced behind the global warming movement. well, mr. turner has a son. 49-year-old teddy turner who is running for congress in south carolina. >> a graduate of the sit del. husband and father of three, today turner is an economics teacher in charleston. turner will fight for more freedom and less government. so our families will have a secure tomorrow. conservative teddy turner for congress. >> bill: what! conservative teddy turner? he joins us now from charleston. are you kidding me? how did you get to be a conservative with such a liberal father? >> my dad asks me that all the time, bill, i tell you four years of military college at the sit del and two years in the soviet union, if that doesn't make you a conservative nothing will. and watching a little bit of fox nothing will, either. when you were raised yo
karl rove will weigh in on the deal and the "60 minutes" interview tonight. adam carolla on shaming overweight people and carolla's experience on "dancing with the stars." there he is whoa. i hope you stay tuned for those reports. >> bill: liberal man, forced behind the global warming movement. well, mr. turner has a son. 49-year-old teddy turner who is running for congress in south carolina. >> a graduate of the sit del. husband and father of three, today turner...
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. >> karl rove as the reformer. >> you're talking about karl rove? >> he built this thing. >> karl is trying to unwind what he wound. >> trying to prevent another meltdown. >> i think there will be bruising changes. >> they have a real problem. >> it is time for a new party to talk like adults, we have to stop being stupid party. >> we have the obligation to try. >> when the president heads to minneapolis. >> progress is possible. >> to talk about gun violence. >> universal background checks are universally supported. >> it is a fraud to call it universal. it will never be universal. law abiding people don't want that. >> the nra is now revealed as an insane organization. and that matters quite a lot. >> the senate is poised to take action on gun violence. >> i didn't vote on the assault weapons last time, it didn't make sense. >> this is an emergency, let's knock off the washington baloney. >> if there is anything we can do, we have an obligation to try. >> i'm ezra klein in for lawrence o'donnell tonight. richard luger was born in indianapolis in 1
. >> karl rove as the reformer. >> you're talking about karl rove? >> he built this thing. >> karl is trying to unwind what he wound. >> trying to prevent another meltdown. >> i think there will be bruising changes. >> they have a real problem. >> it is time for a new party to talk like adults, we have to stop being stupid party. >> we have the obligation to try. >> when the president heads to minneapolis. >> progress is...
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was exposed for the -- always so all powerful, karl rove. scary. he is a sad pathetic, little wrong man on election flight sputtering. anyway, this is what caused all of the trouble. fight, fight fight. >> love this. >> stephanie: shoving each other into the lockers. leaders of the tea party fuming about plans by some republican strategists including karl rove to raise money to help quote-unquote electable candidates win primary races. leaders of the tea party and other republican groups that oppose abortion and gay rights responded by calling rove a fake conservative who had declared war on the tea party. fight, fight fight fight! seriously, kids, don't fight. you're both equally wrong about everything. it doesn't really matter how this comes out. >> stephanie: first public glimpse inside a power struggle inside the republican party. bloomberg writes in wake of the epic november loss, the riff could lead to more costly republican primaries. fight, fight, fight! brent boseel says their idea of the most electable presidential candidate was mi
was exposed for the -- always so all powerful, karl rove. scary. he is a sad pathetic, little wrong man on election flight sputtering. anyway, this is what caused all of the trouble. fight, fight fight. >> love this. >> stephanie: shoving each other into the lockers. leaders of the tea party fuming about plans by some republican strategists including karl rove to raise money to help quote-unquote electable candidates win primary races. leaders of the tea party and other republican...
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you know, nobody has used the word yet, partly because i think karl rove fouled it after 2004 when he proclaimed there was a political realignment in this country. but i think there has been a political realignment. it's an obama realignment. and as i've heard you say before, i think this is now a center left country. the president's right on all these issues. republicans are kind of having a nervous breakdown, don't know what to do about it, so they're playing these kinds of games. >> well, it is our new theme here on the program. yes, we do say let's get to work. but let's call it what it is. this is a center left country. the issues are very progressive that people are polling very strongly in favor of. and another theme out of the republican party is victimization. i mean, you've got boehner and you got ryan and you got limbaugh. all seem to think that president obama is out to just destroy the gop. what a weak presentation of where they are, i would say. >> well, first of all, it would be impossible to victimize rush limbaugh. he is the great -- he is the great guy who is going o
you know, nobody has used the word yet, partly because i think karl rove fouled it after 2004 when he proclaimed there was a political realignment in this country. but i think there has been a political realignment. it's an obama realignment. and as i've heard you say before, i think this is now a center left country. the president's right on all these issues. republicans are kind of having a nervous breakdown, don't know what to do about it, so they're playing these kinds of games. >>...
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i think you'll see, you know, the new karl rove group, as you will, the new conservative party influence recruitment of candidates that speak across -- you know, that appeal to a broader group of people. >> right. >> but the point here, i think there's sort of three things. you mentioned this. there's people in candidate recruitment, right? which is like don't recruit people who say wildly offensive things about rape, that is a new principle for candidate recruitment. then there's the ideal center of where the party is and then there's the tactical choices made about cooperation. >> do you think there's changes at one and three, but not a lot of changes at two. >> so i want to talk about which of those three things are changing after we take this break. ladybug body milk? no thanks. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. it's so powerful you can skip a day... but light enough you won't want to. dermatologist recommended eucerin. the end of trial and error has arrived. try a free sample at eu
i think you'll see, you know, the new karl rove group, as you will, the new conservative party influence recruitment of candidates that speak across -- you know, that appeal to a broader group of people. >> right. >> but the point here, i think there's sort of three things. you mentioned this. there's people in candidate recruitment, right? which is like don't recruit people who say wildly offensive things about rape, that is a new principle for candidate recruitment. then there's...
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so they kept karl rove. >> yes. karl -- see they know that karl rove is going to be a valuables a set in 2014 2016 even if he got it wrong this time around -- >> bill: even if he attacked his own network. >> yes, he is still a relevant political player. sarah palin is not a relevant political player and karl rove is. >> bill: he also know that sarah palin -- when she made the decision that she was not going to run for president in 2012 she did not announce it on fox news. >> yeah. >> bill: why did they hire dennis casinich. >> that's a great question. obviously fox news is conservative, but the number one goal is programming, and roger ailes wants to have people on there to yell at each other. they probably made him an offer that was really good and now they have somebody on there that they can yell at. >> bill: i wonder if they'll give him the opportunity to express his opinions. >> yeah. >> bill: we saw each other last night at the launch of the new, new republic. i don't know how long the new republic has been ar
so they kept karl rove. >> yes. karl -- see they know that karl rove is going to be a valuables a set in 2014 2016 even if he got it wrong this time around -- >> bill: even if he attacked his own network. >> yes, he is still a relevant political player. sarah palin is not a relevant political player and karl rove is. >> bill: he also know that sarah palin -- when she made the decision that she was not going to run for president in 2012 she did not announce it on fox...
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one person who liked cantor's speech was karl rove. he promoted it on twitter as it was all unfolding. bob, is rove trying to become the architect of the party again? and of course he is going at it on the right-wingers as well. >> well, he doesn't have much choice, you know. he set up this new effort in american crossroads to try to influence gop primaries. and i'm not in the business of defending karl rove. but if i could take a leaf from gene robinson's book and say this is a kind of step that makes sense if you want to elect republicans. but the problem is with the dominance of the tea party types, the religious right, and a lot of these states you're going to see more republican nominees who are going to lose winnable races. rove wants to change that, although he is the one who contributed to creating it at almost every level over a long period of years. >> eugene robinson, bob shrum, great to have you on the program tonight. thank you so much for joining us. >>> remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the scr
one person who liked cantor's speech was karl rove. he promoted it on twitter as it was all unfolding. bob, is rove trying to become the architect of the party again? and of course he is going at it on the right-wingers as well. >> well, he doesn't have much choice, you know. he set up this new effort in american crossroads to try to influence gop primaries. and i'm not in the business of defending karl rove. but if i could take a leaf from gene robinson's book and say this is a kind of...
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. >> jennifer: this whole eric cantor trying to rebrand, karl rove trying to get moderate candidates, which is a smart move on their part. a new poll that found that voters are more reluctant to identify themselves as republicans after november. andand republican identification is down by an average of 4 points. can they rebrand their way out of this one? >> i don't know, i think it will be tough. you have jindal calling them the stupid party. you have cantor calling for a makeover. it's very painful to watch. but there is an one popular statement, you can't put lipstick on a pig. as long as they're wrong on immigration they won't win latinos. as long as they're wrong on the violence against women act and protecting people in terms of gun violence prevention and pre-productive health they won't have women. as long as they're not talking about affordable college in a real way and climate control they won't have young vote voters. as long as they attack medicare and medicaid, social security they're going to have a tough time with seniors. they can talk about makeovers and etch-a-sketch
. >> jennifer: this whole eric cantor trying to rebrand, karl rove trying to get moderate candidates, which is a smart move on their part. a new poll that found that voters are more reluctant to identify themselves as republicans after november. andand republican identification is down by an average of 4 points. can they rebrand their way out of this one? >> i don't know, i think it will be tough. you have jindal calling them the stupid party. you have cantor calling for a makeover....
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martha: karl rove is firing back at some of his critics after claims that he is favoring establishment republicans over tea party candidate. rove says that is not so. he says he is looking nor wins, winning candidates and results. take a look at this from last night. >> some people think the best we can do is todd akin and richard murdoch, they are wrong. we need to to better if we hope to take over the united states senate. we need to get more conservative candidates and win. martha: who better to talk about that but to carlson and alan colmes. gregg: the president said if you like your hilt insurance you can get to keep it. not so fast. details on how wrong he might have been. martha: stunning video of four volcanoes all erupting at the sale time. it looks like the beginning of earth. it's unbelievable. wait until you see all this. we'll be right back. gregg: a deadly scene in fort lauderdale, florida, one person was killed when this truck slammed into a pillar halfway off the overpass. rescue crews working for hours to remove the driver, eventually had to use a crane to pull the tru
martha: karl rove is firing back at some of his critics after claims that he is favoring establishment republicans over tea party candidate. rove says that is not so. he says he is looking nor wins, winning candidates and results. take a look at this from last night. >> some people think the best we can do is todd akin and richard murdoch, they are wrong. we need to to better if we hope to take over the united states senate. we need to get more conservative candidates and win. martha: who...
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and have karl rove lose his -- [ explosion ] >> stephanie: it would be awesome. are you sure? are you sure? the texas party truly believes that the state lead by latino could deny republicans in the house with potentially forever. the latino population are the fastest growing group meaning it is just matter of time before white conservatives become minorities. we are the only majority minority state of the union that doesn't have an elected democratic official. one analyst said i think in 2014, we're going to be considered a swing state. by 2016 we'll be seen fully in play. texas, my friends. [ applause ] >> stephanie: we're going to mess with texas. >> texas is doing fine messing with itself. >> stephanie: yeah, john boehner said the president is trying to innile late the republican party. no, you are doing a pretty good job yourself. back with charlie pierce next on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda,
and have karl rove lose his -- [ explosion ] >> stephanie: it would be awesome. are you sure? are you sure? the texas party truly believes that the state lead by latino could deny republicans in the house with potentially forever. the latino population are the fastest growing group meaning it is just matter of time before white conservatives become minorities. we are the only majority minority state of the union that doesn't have an elected democratic official. one analyst said i think in...
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rove said they were then going to move on comprehensive immigration reform and they were going to cement hispanics, or a large chunk of that hispanics, as sort of what rove called the republican majority. it was not just john mccain, it was the republican primary in 2008. you remember john mccain came into that, the guy who would finish second to bush in 2000. this was going to be john mccain's nomination in 2008. and his campaign practically imploded. he linked the immigration reform bill to ted kennedy. it became totally off limits in republican primaries. and yes, you are now seeing a return to normalcy, a guy like john mccain, and graham, they still come out supporting it. i think it is an open question, when you look at the republican safe house districts is it still safe for these people to come out and say they support comprehensive reform? i still think it is an open question. >> victoria, take us through the elements of the plan, the democrats like to say tough but fair, they are suspected of being too soft on this. but it does include a path to citizenship and that phrase, "pat
rove said they were then going to move on comprehensive immigration reform and they were going to cement hispanics, or a large chunk of that hispanics, as sort of what rove called the republican majority. it was not just john mccain, it was the republican primary in 2008. you remember john mccain came into that, the guy who would finish second to bush in 2000. this was going to be john mccain's nomination in 2008. and his campaign practically imploded. he linked the immigration reform bill to...